11
1985
Sources
Transferrer: Kevin Tobin
2:24:43
SBD
Rating:
10.00 / 1 rating
Transferrer:
Kevin Tobin
SHNID:
gd1985-11-02.137205.mtx.tobin.flac16
Source:
Matrix 2 Source Mix - SBD (shnid=14604) SBD > ? > DAT > CD > EAC > WAV > CoolEdit2000 (retracking) >SHN + AUD (shnid=4772)(FOB)AUD>Beyer Dynamic M88's>Sony TCD5M(CM)>Nak DR-10 (Playback)> Midiman Flying Cow 24bit/48kHz A/D>RME Digi96/8> Steinberg's Wavelab 3.0 (bit resolution & resampling to CDR redbook 16/44.1>CDWav v1.6 (tracking only)>SHNv3 (MKW ACT): Analog and digital mastering by Charlie Connor; seeded to abgd - matrix mixing by Kevin Tobin
Taper Notes:
View NotesSBD + AUD Matrix 2 Source Mix --------------------------------------------------------- - Mixed by [email protected] - FLAC conversion 08-NOV-2016 - Trader Little Helper - Tagged 08-NOV-2016 - Tag&Rename --------------------------------------------------------- Brokedown House Production
Taper: See info files for details
2:24:09
SBD
Rating:
8.80 / 5 ratings
Taper:
See info files for details
Transferrer:
Chris Chappell
SHNID:
gd1985-11-02.matrix.chappell.27582.sbeok.flac16
Source:
Matrix: (SBD/AUD mix) See info file for details
Lineage:
See info file for details
Taper Notes:
View NotesGeneral Notes: Often overshadowed by the novelty of the night before, this was always a favorite show of those I attended because of the great performances by all band members. Highlights include a psychadelic ending on Iko (w/Phil on vocals too), a moving China Doll out of a very innovative modal jam post UJB, and a thunderous Dew out of Space. Given the multiple sources available on the Llama, I decided to put the effort into editing a matrix since I was never completely happy with the SBD. The result is a worthwile listen, especially given that none of the existing sources are complete
Taper: Recorded by Doug Lamarre
2:23:58
Taper:
Recorded by Doug Lamarre
Transferrer:
Scott Clugston and Charlie Miller
SHNID:
gd1985-11-02.151993.senn441.lamarre.miller.clugston.flac2496
Source:
Doug Lamarre's Master Audience Cassettes (Taper's Section); Sennheiser 441 mics > Sony D5M
Lineage:
Master Cassettes (Nakamichi CR-7A) > Tascam DA-3000 (.wav 24-bit/96k) > Adobe Audition 2020 > TLH flac2496
Taper Notes:
View NotesNotes: - Thanks to Doug Lamarre for the Master cassettes - Thanks to Charlie Miller for the transfer and coordinating this effort - Thanks to Ted Mattes and the folks responsible for the Sennheiser 441 source which supplies some crowd and the beginning of "Candyman" (0:34 total), some crowd and beginning of "Iko Iko" (0:15 total), as well as a 0:15 patch in "Drums" - Pitch verified Mastered by Scott Clugston February 2021
Taper: Recorded by Doug Lamarre
2:23:58
Taper:
Recorded by Doug Lamarre
Transferrer:
Scott Clugston and Charlie Miller
SHNID:
gd1985-11-02.151992.senn441.lamarre.miller.clugston.flac1648
Source:
Doug Lamarre's Master Audience Cassettes (Taper's Section); Sennheiser 441 mics > Sony D5M
Lineage:
Master Cassettes (Nakamichi CR-7A) > Tascam DA-3000 (.wav 24-bit/96k) > Adobe Audition 2020 > TLH flac2496
Taper Notes:
View NotesNotes: - Thanks to Doug Lamarre for the Master cassettes - Thanks to Charlie Miller for the transfer and coordinating this effort - Thanks to Ted Mattes and the folks responsible for the Sennheiser 441 source which supplies some crowd and the beginning of "Candyman" (0:34 total), some crowd and beginning of "Iko Iko" (0:15 total), as well as a 0:15 patch in "Drums" - Pitch verified Mastered by Scott Clugston February 2021
Taper: Charles Bandrofcheck
2:32:39
Rating:
10.00 / 1 rating
Taper:
Charles Bandrofcheck
Transferrer:
Charles Bandrofcheck
SHNID:
gd1985-11-02.cpb.retransfer.32798.sbeok.flac16
Source:
Can't remember shotgun mics -> Sony D6 -> Maxel MX 90s
Lineage:
Playback on Marantz SD 4050 -> Marantz Intergrated Stereo Amp MP-68 -> SBLive! -> CDWave -> WAV -> mkwAC -> SHN
Taper Notes:
View Notesnotes - This recording was done to capture as much as possable plus a lot of hiss. There were no tape flips requiring fast forwarding or rewinding during the actual recording. Side A of the first tape was recorded then Side A of the second cassette. Everything was then fast forwarded at the break and the B Sides were recorded. - nice finish for the last show ever at my home town arena - tracks on cd3 can be added to the end of CD 1 to save space. Will play uninterupted if placed on CD 3 though.
Taper: Oade Bros.
2:21:25
REMASTER
Rating:
8.89 / 18 ratings
Taper:
Oade Bros.
Transferrer:
Doug Oade
SHNID:
gd85-11-02.aud-oade.remaster.20663.sbeok.shnf
Source:
Schoeps CMC441s (90deg, 17cm) + (CMC42 omni - offset ~ 8') > custom mixer made by Doug Oade (M118 circuit in a 3 channel package) > Oade mod SONY PCM-F1
Lineage:
Master PCM > DAW (via SEKD card) > DSP* > CD data > HD > compressed with mkwACT0.97b (mkw) > CDR > HD > mkwACT (verify) > WAV > CD Wave 1.91 (splits) > mkwACT > SHN (seekable)
Taper Notes:
View Notes*DSP Notes: Doug Oade performed DSP on the transferred wav files using Waves REQ, RCL and C4 plug ins. IDR used for 32 > 16bit conversions of DAW files. Doug's DSP comments: The DSP I did was to accomplish three goals, one is to reduce the dynamic range, without making it sound compressed (very low ratio of 1.25 to 1), the second, to apply EQ in order to partially compensate for the LF rolloff of the mics used and finally, I used the C4 processor to reduce PA or source hiss from space that was brought up in level by the use of RCL. *1. The majority of the Bertha opener is missing (due to a late arrival/setup - which was unusual for the Oades). D.O.: "...we setup late and did not get the first set startup..." *2. There is a minor pop near the start of Candyman. D.O.: "The Candyman pop is a source pop. I remember it being a problem we had with one mic that was repaired prior to the NYE run in 85." *3. There is a ~3 second dropout in Drums/Space starting near 02:58. D.O.: "...it is a hard drop due to a bad spot on the master tape. My DAT has the same drop on it..." *4. Part of the intro into the "Baby Blue" encore is missing. D.O.: "...Baby Blue ... it was a late start, possible battery death after the second set and Jim did not notice it right away, seems like a rough night for the Oade Taping Team!" Tracked: CD-R > HD > verified mkw signature file - converted mkw to wav (mkwACT0.97b) > Tracked with CD Wave v.1.91 > compressed with mkwACT0.97b (SHN trackable - sector boundaries verified with shntool v1.02) > CD-R Comments: Discs were laid out to try to accommodate 74 minute CDs. If track 08a (45 seconds of audience before start of 2nd set) is omitted, timing for Disc 1 will be less than 74 minutes. If you want to include d1t08a, total time for Disc 1 will be 74 minutes and 23 seconds (i.e. consider using 80 minute CD). The decision was made to start Disc 2 with Uncle Johns Band even though Estimated Prophet segues into Uncle Johns. Its a minor transition from Estimated to Uncle Johns. Estimated ends cleanly on Disc 1 and Uncle Johns starts cleanly on Disc 2. Once you've listened to this recording I think you'll agree that the technical issues (noted above) fade in the light of the magic that was captured in the moment. I trust you'll appreciate the quality and energy of these shows that the Oades documented so faithfully. Thank you Doug, Jim and Carlos, for making this material available - for your tireless efforts and selfless dedication to preserving and sharing the music. ~~Conrad